Join Lauren Johnson Matthias (Hidden True Crime), Megan Conner (Lori Vallow’s cousin), Mindy Caldwell, and John Dehlin as they dive deep into Shari Franke’s explosive new book, The House of My Mother: A Daughter’s Quest for Freedom. As the eldest daughter of Ruby Franke—the controversial mother behind 8 Passengers—Shari Franke offers a raw and unfiltered look at her family’s dark reality, her mother’s relationship with Jodi Hildebrandt, and the complex role of the Mormon Church in shaping her upbringing.

In this gripping discussion, we unpack shocking revelations from Shari Franke’s memoir, including Ruby’s history of emotional and physical abuse, the influence of Jodi Hildebrandt’s extreme ideology, and Kevin Franke’s role—or lack thereof—in protecting his children. We explore how religious teachings on obedience, gender roles, and authority primed Ruby for manipulation and enabled a culture of control. Was Ruby always abusive, or did Jodi push her over the edge? How much responsibility does Kevin bear?

Our panelists share their own experiences with faith, parenting, and the impact of Mormonism’s rigid expectations. Megan Conner opens up about seeing herself in Ruby’s strict, fear-based parenting, while Mindy Caldwell brings her extensive research to the table, questioning the church’s silence on abusive figures like Jodi. We also examine the psychological toll on Shari Franke, from religious scrupulosity to her coerced separation from mental health care.

The conversation takes a deep dive into 8 Passengers, family vlogging culture, and the ethical concerns of monetizing children’s private lives. Shari Franke’s painful experiences—being denied therapy, forced to endure religious discipline, and ultimately severed from her family—mirror larger patterns of coercive control within Mormonism. We also discuss her shocking account of sexual assault, her struggle to break free, and her courageous decision to share her truth.

With connections to Visions of Glory, the Daybell/Vallow case, and the systemic failures within the LDS Church, this discussion highlights the broader implications of Shari Franke’s story. How did figures like Jodi Hildebrandt gain unchecked power? What does this say about institutional accountability?

Join us for this eye-opening conversation as we seek to understand the forces that shaped Shari Franke’s harrowing journey and celebrate her resilience in reclaiming her voice.