Join us this Tuesday for an epic but daunting story of the Mormon Church going out of its way to persecute and discipline a same-sex married and non-endowed member who was trying to live a happy life outside the fear and shame of Mormon orthodoxy. With audio recordings of phone calls, meetings, and the Disciplinary Council itself, we will show the constant misrepresentations, deflections, and gaslighting perpetrated by the Bishop and the Stake President to protect the good name of the church. A modern case of lying for the Lord.

After moving out of his home-Stake, not attending church for 4 years, and 6 months after posting on Facebook about getting married to the love of his life, Brennen was handed a letter at his door. He was utterly stunned and confused as he read the document signed by his childhood bishop who was summoning him to a Disciplinary Council on the basis of his same-sex marriage.

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Brennan’s Summons from Bishop & Response

History of Leader’s Statements on the LGBTQ

John Dehlin’s Disciplinary Council 

Sam Pinson’s Disciplinary Council

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  1. Nancy N June 25, 2022 at 4:55 pm - Reply

    Thank you all for this episode. I have been contemplating resigning my church membership for many years. But this episode prompted a new thought: why aren’t all of us disaffected members pursuing excommunication for apostasy based on our support for gay marriage, ordination of women, historicity, etc.? I’m sure there is no transparency about excomms vs. resignations but it is the principle. Let’s force them to show their true colors, even if it’s only in that room?

  2. Brian W June 26, 2022 at 10:33 pm - Reply

    Has anyone looked at this from the angle that the bishop and stake president may both have repressed homosexual tendencies and are looking for an outlet in some twisted way. With all of the issues they certainly must have to deal with in their ward/stake, it seems that they went out of their way to go after Brennan. And to me they both seem to be enjoying the continuous, never-ending repetitive questions & probing dialogue. This is so abusive. As a gay man trying to be active in the church this makes me very angry & fearful.

  3. Charlie Jones June 28, 2022 at 8:31 am - Reply

    Such a joke. This bishop just dances around everything. So mormon the way he couldn’t just be truthful. He hunted you down hoping you would just resign.

  4. Seth June 28, 2022 at 8:42 am - Reply

    Do you have a link to the state about ‘Upwards of 80% of youth raised in the church are leaving’? around the 2:58:00 into the episode

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